Raiding Clerics!

Discussion in 'Cleric' started by Elite, Oct 3, 2011.

  1. Elite

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    Going to be updating this thread with helpful links for builds, DPS/Healing/Support.

    4 viable pure healing specs (sent/ward, sent/puri, pure ward, pure puri)
    3 viable hybrid specs (senticar, inquisicar, shamicar)
    3 viable dps specs (inquisitor, shaman, and cab)

    Here's a link for a guide to all the support/Hybrid specs.
    http://rift.xanadu-community.com/items.php?page=browse&id=205

    Going to make a complete post once I get more time. :)
  2. Elite

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    Some more Specs (supplied by Jor).

    -------- Raid Healing/DPS --------

    44 Inquis, 12 Just, 10 Sent
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=00rdj.VuMo.EekVgx0qz.V0x

    Rotation is SH > BoJ. Keep Vex up and cast Fanat > BoD when insta-BoD is up. The key to this build is crit. 600 SC is the bare minimum, and it just scales from there. The goal is to get 30% crit so that with raid buffs (+5% from Inner Focus, +5% from Armor of Awakening, +5% from Bard Buff, +5% from Archon) you get 50%, which is enough to keep Corporal Punishment up all the time.

    For heal-heavy encounters I use a different macro, which is for heavy conviction building on the move. Its:

    #show Sanction Heretic
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Sanction Heretic
    cast Strike of Judgment
    cast Life's Vengeance
    cast Bolt of Radiance
    cast Bolt of Judgment

    SH is always good to cast because it'll add 2 convictions (1 from initial damage, 1 from first tick of HoT), Strike will add convictions while in melee, and the others will add convictions from range. Also, this has two mana returns. Aggressive renewal from range, and purpose + strike in melee.

    DPS on this spec is 850 ST with about 1200 SP, 700 SC. HPS is amazing.




    -------- Tank --------

    51 Justicar, 9 Shaman, 6 Cabalist

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=00nro.hcd.EuRsqesdqR.Vz

    6 Cabalist is for Dark Harbor. Otherwise, it's a pretty standard tank spec. The main macro I use is:

    #show Precept of Refuge
    cast Precept of Refuge
    cast Glacial Shield
    cast Strike of Judgment
    cast Fated Blow

    Not much to stay about this spec. Spam the macro if ST, spam 2x Even Justice 1x Macro if multiple. Keep in mind that Rebuke has a minimum range so it's a tricky AoE taunt, and don't forget to use DoL for aggro sometimes. Also, use Just Defense early and often.





    -------- Pure DPS --------

    51 Shaman, 11 Inquisitor, 4 Warden

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=00dne.Vxz.EedttrsAk.m

    Cookie-cutter 1-button shaman DPS spec. I just parsed this and don't really use it in raids. Very crit-reliant but it scales really well with raid buffs. Parses for about 1k DPS solo.

    Macro is:

    #show Crushing Blow
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Massive Blow
    cast Frozen Wrath
    cast Sanction Heretic
    cast Lightning Hammer
    cast Crushing Blow
    cast Jolt
    cast Glory of the Chosen
    cast Fated Blow
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  3. Elwyn

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    Yey shaman macro to play with.
  4. Kropotkin

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    Thanks for posting. Though the last macro looks squiffy - I thought common practice was to put the reactives first (Jolt, GotC, Fated Blow etc. - especially the oGCD ones)? At least that is what I've seen done in other macros, and what I've always been doing. I'm not in game so can't check, but if Crushing Blow is an no c/d instant cast won't the last three never fire, and if it isn't, don't you need something like Strike of Judgment at the end as a filler for when everything else is down?

    Forgive me if I'm being a nub cleric.
  5. Kropotkin

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    Just looked at the cleric forums re. the macros, apparently there is some debate (server requests yawn), but all down to personal preference. So macro gets Kapookin approval.
  6. Elite

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    Here's an alternative macro for the 51 shaman. This is the one I used when I ran the spec, the above is Jor's macro. Both seem to work fine. :)

    #show Massive Blow
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Jolt
    cast Fated Blow
    cast Glory of the Chosen
    cast Ageless Ice
    cast Frozen Wrath
    cast Massive Blow
    cast Sanction Heretic
    cast Lightning Hammer
    cast Crushing Blow

    Mine actually has the mana regen in it so you don't have to cast it yourself. Never worry about mana with this one.
  7. Erik

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    From my extensive experience with the tank specs, you usually want to go 6 into Inquisitor for Armor of Treachery, which gives a pretty decent boost to armor and endurance.

    link here to where points should go
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=00_d_..Vo

    other then that it looks good :D

    (there are many different ways to go with cleric tanking, all which are effective)
  8. Kropotkin

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    Yeah, I went into Sent for the End and extra SP on my Justicar spec. Think it is down to personal preference :)

    Also, demotion for Elite for being a lazy bugger and putting the mana regen in his macro. Tsk tsk
  9. Erik

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    Yeah i tried that way back when, but because of the bonus' u get from mein of leadership, the armor of treachery's armor buff gets over doubled (unless thats been changed). Cant remember what treachery gives before mein is put up, but together the treachey buff from Inq gives more then most cleric shields, including raid drops.

    Yours looks to be more for outgoing damage buff vs mine is more for damage mitigation :p

    but yeah, its all personal preference
  10. Elite

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    It's a 1 button spec...might as well put everything in there.

    Though I have to admit I don't use it myself anymore. :p
  11. Jor

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    This is my current raiding spec:

    44 Inquis, 12 Justicar, 10 Warden
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=00rde.VuMo.EekVgx0qz.Vx

    I have 3 macros:

    Single-Target DPS:
    #show Sanction Heretic
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Sanction Heretic
    cast Bolt of Judgment
    cast Bolt of Radiance
    cast Waterjet

    AoE DPS:
    #show Soul Drain
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Fanaticism
    cast Soul Drain

    Conviction Builder:
    #show Sanction Heretic
    cast Sanction Heretic
    cast Strike of Judgment
    cast Bolt of Radiance
    cast Bolt of Judgment
    cast Waterjet

    Mana Return:
    #show Purpose
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Purpose
    cast Strike of Judgment

    The ST rotation is:

    Vex -> Sanction Heretic -> Spam Bolt of Judgment until Bolt of Depravity proc -> Fanaticism + Bolt of Depravity

    AoE rotation is:

    Fanaticism + Soul Drain -> Circle of Oblivion -> Circle of Oblivion canceled into Soul Drain

    Ever since they changed Corporal Punishment to have a flat 50% chance to proc, you no longer need high SC. Shoot for at least 1600 SP raid buffed.

    Also, having full ability queue turned on might help with DPS. It's in Interface, Action Bars.

    Against the dummy, self-buffed, I can parse about 950-ish without a powerstone while maintaining Spiritual Deficiency.
  12. Jor

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  13. Elwyn

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  14. Jor

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    They're making some changes in 1.6 so new optimal tanking spec will probably be:

    51 Just/9 Sham/6 Cab.
    or
    51 Just/7 Sham/8 Sent
  15. Elite

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    51 Inquis / 10 Sent / 5 Warden Cleric :: top DPS build for all Clerics
    46 Inquis / 10 Warden / 10 Sent :: Sicaron cleansing build
    38 Inquis / 17 Sent / 11 Justicar :: (DEFENSIVE) Hybrid healing & DPS build
    45 Inquis / 11 Justicar / 10 Warden :: (OFFENSIVE) Hybrid healing & DPS build

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